What's
unique about this radar
detector review and
comparison?
The
purpose of this radar
detector review is to examine
the real-world
performance and ergonomics of
the best windshield-mount
radar detectors that are
currently being
made.
We
wanted to compare them in
real-world driving
situations against actual
speed traps which we
encountered and to report our
findings in a format that is
as comprehensive as it
is unique; we wanted
you to feel as if you were
along for the ride.
Many
of the conventional reviews
extant address the
performance of radar
detectors in terms of
distance. In keeping
with VEIL's
philosophy, we reported
our results in terms of
time - as in,
reaction
time.
This,
we believe, is ultimately
what radar detector
performance is all about -
providing its owner with
sufficient reaction
time to safely slow down
and avoid a potential
speeding
ticket.
Each
of the detectors were retail
versions of the products. No
radar detector was provided
to us by the manufacturer and
our opinions were formulated
on these specific samples.
We did not take into account
the possibility of production
variation, which may
exist.
We
did not want to write just
another editorial and the
conclusions we reached here
may be entirely different
from your own. That's OK, as
a good number of the things
we covered are subjective in
nature.
We
offer two flavors of our
findings:
Summary
Version - which leaves
out some detail and contains
none of our daily travel
logs
Full Version -
designed for the "road
warrior"
Since
different aspects of these
radar detectors will appeal
to each individual
differently, we included
an incredible amount of
detail in our
unabridged
version.
In doing so, we provide
you the option of
deciding whether or
not
you wish to understand how
and/or why we reached the
conclusions we did.
With the full version, we
broke the report into
sections about
individual aspects of each
either performance-wise or
ergonomically - so that you
can choose what is most
relevant - and included some
additional pictures and video
clips.
Each
version contains
unique content
(particularly, the
conclusions)- for you
"true diehards" - so
you may enjoy both
versions!.
The
Radar Detectors
We
set out to test, compare, and
review the three latest
high-end radar detectors: the
Beltronics RX65
Pro Rev 3.6, the
Escort 8500
X50 - Rev 5, and
the Valentine One
v3.8.18
/w POP2
(aka: V1.8).
All
were acquired new, shortly
before our trip to CES in late
December, 2004. We added an
older Valentine One (V1.7) to
the mix for good
measure.
We
hope the information
provided, herein, will
elevate the level of
knowledge about all of these
great radar
detectors.
Enjoy
The Ride!
Equipment
How they
look together. Note: Detectors not tested this way
Beltronics RX65 Pro
The packaging includes the detector;
detachable power cord; lighter adapter
with power and alert LEDs and single
push button mute and remote volume level
adjustment; windshield mount; aluminum
travel case; replacement suction cups;
manual; and quick reference/programming
card.
Escort 8500 X50 (Red)
The packaging includes the detector;
detachable power cord; lighter adapter
with power and alert LEDs and single
push button mute; European power
adapter; windshield mount; nice travel
case; replacement suction cups; manual;
and quick reference/programming card.
Valentine One v1.8 /w POP2
The packaging includes the detector; two
detachable power cords (one coiled and
one straight); somewhat bulky/pivoting
lighter adaptor that comes with
user-replaceable modular fuse (nice
touch) which can also power the optional
remote display head-unit; permanent
wiring kit; windshield & visor mount;
replacement suction cups; manual; and
spare fuse.
Build Quality
The build quality of each of these
detectors is impressive - the Valentine
One being the most so. It appears to be
the “tank” of the bunch with its
“box-like” magnesium case. Both the
RX65 and 8500 X50 are also well built
and the controls of all three brands are
of the highest quality in feel.
The V1 appeared to be most resistant to
scuffs and minor dings and its metal
case serves to further isolate/shield
its electronics.
Display
Bel RX65, Escort
X50 (Red), Valentine V1 at Night
T the
Bel RX65 Pro easily had the most
readable display at its maximum bright
settings, followed by both Valentines,
and then the 8500 X50. The display
brightness differences only became
apparent in a direct comparison and all
were more than adequate.
Both the Escort and the Bel had
additional brightness levels and an
ability to run in "Dark Mode" which
minimized unwanted attention during
evening drives. The
Valentine offers a dark-mode operation
when paired with the (optional) remote
display head-unit.
The Bel unit - with its flat frontal
face - allows for operation in either
right or left-hand driving scenarios
where the Escort and both Valentines -
with their left-facing fronts - are more
suited to left-hand driving situations.
Audio
Volume
The Bel had the loudest maximum volume
followed closely by the V1, v1.8.
The Escort and the older Valentine were
somewhat muted by comparison requiring a
bit more attentiveness when driving to
music.
Tone Distinction (Radar/Laser Band
Identification)
We believe both the V1 and the RX65
really excel in this regard followed by
the 8500 X50. The Bel has the
additional ability to augment its alert
with voice band-id - which we warmed up
to.
The tonal qualities and volume levels
obtainable with either the Beltronics or
the newest Valentine allow for rapid
communication to the driver - an
essential ability.
Perhaps it’s due, in part, to the
history I have with the V1 over the
years (almost 15 years), but I feel that the
distinct tones are one of the
more appealing qualities of the V1 -
they're instantly discernable.
After
we got used to the RX65's alerts, we
actually found that they may be more
consistently identifiable - especially
at mid-low volumes and/or when
accompanied by music. In these
situations, the Valentine's X and K
alerts can be confused with one another
- particularly when they are brief in
nature. The Bel's tone's remained
distinctive even at lower volume levels.
Audio Signal Strength Meter
("Gradient")
Both the Valentines and the Escort
had excellent "gradients" followed by
the Bel requiring review of the display
to confirm the strongest (i.e.; most
threatening) encounters.
Audio Muting
Both the Beltronics and the Escort
radar detectors provided auto-muting
capability which reduced volume levels
after the initial alert.
Chassis Size
The Bel is the smallest of the group and
has a nice stream-lined chassis.
The Escort is similar in width (to its
Beltronics' cousin) but a bit longer.
The Valentine v1.8 (although smaller
than its older brother) felt the
bulkiest although its somewhat larger
size allows for what appears to be
larger antennae which may enhance the
ability of the V1 to see very weak and
distant radar sources (more about this
later.)
Ultimately, though, we're not talking
huge disparities here.
Windshield Mounting
Both the RX65 Pro and the Escort 8500
X50 have dual-suction cup windshield
mounting brackets that really adhere
to the windshield in a variety of
temperature conditions and allows for
ultra-quick detector
mounting/dismounting.
The Valentine's mounting bracket had
occasional difficulty in keeping its
adhesion to the windshield and required
a little more effort with
mounting/dismounting of the detector,
itself. It was
the only detector, though, that was
supplied with a additional visor
mounting clip.
Programming Ease
Both the Bel and the Escort excel in
this area. Given their ease of use,
either of these detectors is easily
programmed in the field without
requiring reference to a manual or to
the little programming card that is
provided.
Another nice feature of both the Bel and
the Escort units was the ability to
perform a quick factory reset with a
power-up push-button sequence.
It essential to note that both the
Escort 8500 X50 and the Bel RX65 Pro
default settings have POP reception
disabled.
The Valentine One, in comparison, feels
a little like something from the 70s
when it comes to programming. The
single LED display and single
push-button knob serve as the limiting
factors here. We would not recommend
programming this unit without reference
to the programming manual, which can be
inconvenient if one is on the road.
To our knowledge, there is no quick
reset mechanism available on the V1.
Unlike the other two detectors, the
default settings have POP reception
enabled.
Real-World Performance / The Drive
Our Test Vehicle (Western Route)
We selected a test vehicle that would
serve our enthusiastic driving
requirements that wouldn’t break the
bank in the process. We settled on a
5-speed sterling silver BMW Z4
convertible for our 1500 mile journey.
The Bimmer was rented from
Rent-A-Vette
of Las Vegas, NV, an agency that offers
high-line vehicles for hourly (ouch),
daily, or weekly rentals.
Besides being hideously expensive to
rent, we resisted our initial urges to
selecting a yellow Lamborghini Gallardo or
the "arrest-me-red" Ferrari 360 Modena for
the test as we really didn’t want to
attract that much attention, considering
our expected driving style. These
works-of-art look like they deserve a
speeding ticket while parked!
Of course, we immediately applied
VEIL
to our rental vehicle in the
event we inadvertently stumbled upon a
laser speed trap - try doing that
with a
laser jammer!
Driving Conditions/Style
While we don’t condone speeding, we
wanted to use these detectors in a
manner consistent with their intent - to
protect their drivers from would be
speeding tickets!
As such we routinely cruised “in excess”
of posted limits and sometimes found our
speed to be occasionally north of the
“century mark.”
Granted,
rural areas of western states are a bit
more conducive to this sort of driving.
In other words, we wouldn’t necessarily
attempt driving as boldly in urban areas
and/or more populated states with more heavily
traveled roads - but we did want to
experience the full potential of these
great radar detectors.
Our Western Route
Red - Day 1, Blue - Day 2, Yellow - Day
3, Green - Day 4
Our Eastern Route
We decided to add two additional days of
driving to include several eastern
states (PA, NJ, NY) since we had as yet to encounter
a bona-fide X-band or laser speed
trap. Our "target" vehicle was a
late model BMW 540i Sport which had been
treated with
VEIL
for about nine months and was still going
strong. We chose a route that
would take us through some of the most
heavily patrolled areas of NJ and NY
(I-78 and I-87, respectively.)
During this segment of our driving
route, we came to realize that the
"texture" of traffic enforcement is
different, in feeling, than that
of the West. In this portion of
the country, there tends to be a much
greater likelihood of being targeted
with instant-on/pulsed radar.
Although we had encountered some of
these kinds of speed traps during our
1500 mile trip out West, they where in
the minority by comparison.
We believe, in this driving
environment, extreme
sensitivity must be balanced with a
minimal propensity to "falsing"
so as to not dilute the sense of urgency
of any given radar/laser alert.
Although the term "false" may be
misrepresentative - as any alert is
likely from a legitimate radar/laser
source - we use it here to mean from a
source other than a confirmable
speed-enforcement related origin (i.e.;
trooper or traffic speed sign).
Conclusions
Placing your trust into a radar
detector takes time and
requires a lot of driving time behind
the wheel and a proven historical
track-record with a variety of different
speed trap encounters.
Low-power
pulsed X-band K-55 from rear - 20+ yrs
old technology!
Concerned about POP RADAR? No
need. Plenty of other lethal
speedtraps lurking about.
For this
test, we drove almost 2300 miles in five states (AZ, NV, PA,
NJ, NY), encountered, without
incident, all forms of
pulsed/steady radar currently utilized in
North America and even unexpectedly
encroached upon a laser speed trap in
which
VEIL
allowed us to avoid a
laser speeding
ticket!
You can read, in detail,
about all of our actual driving
experiences in the
unabridged
version of this review.
Another
hapless motorist who has not, as yet,
heard of Veil.
Bottom line - all three of these
radar detectors are truly stellar
performers and we have yet to encounter
a real speed trap that any of these
detectors weren’t up to the task of
providing the maximum level of
protection that a detector is capable of
providing today.
This is not to say that we didn’t have
our preferences. We did, though,
these preferences were more tied to an
individual radar detector "personality"
than merely performance differences.
Beltronics
RX65 Pro, Rev 3.6
Ergonomically, it was
superior.
We loved the quick re-programming
ability, the volume levels obtainable,
band audio clarity, its smaller size,
the overall quietness of operation [lack
of falsing] even on highway mode, that
it can be operated in Dark Mode,
provided remote volume adjustment with
audio assistance -at a touch of a button
[on the lighter plug] and that changes
to operation are accompanied by
textual/tonal confirmation. Most
importantly, though, it was consistently quick at alerting to
approaching ALL radar/laser threats
encountered.
Along with this quickness came a
somewhat higher "false" rate -including
POP -relative to the Escort and
therefore required a modest
level of involvement from its owner to
properly interpret what the alarms
meant.
The fact that is has the added
capability to detect Ku radar - which
has been in use in Europe for quite some
time and may soon be making its
appearance stateside, is a nice bonus.
Think of the
Bel as a high-performance sports car
that can act as daily driver.
Vehicles such as a late model
Corvette
or Porsche 911
with SMG come to mind.
Escort 8500
X50 (Red), Rev 5
Overall, the
Escort 8500 X50 (Red) was the
easiest with which to get along.
It was the most quiet in terms falsing,
provided exceptional sensitivity to
both K and Ka radar, and ease of
programming and/or setting changes while
driving.
We did not
specifically encounter a laser trap with
the X50 in operation, but given the
nature of the one we did stumble upon,
we are certain it would have behaved
similarly. Its X-band performance
did appear to diminish, somewhat, when
operating with Ka band enabled.
This fact is purely academic, though, if
you don't live or drive in New Jersey or
any other area where X-band radar is
known to be in operation.
Think of
Escort as a nice Grand Tourer (GT)
of the three - an automatic E-class from
Mercedes-Benz
or 5 Series from
Bayerische Motoren Werke, if
you will.
It should be
considered when one desires a very
high-level of protection without
requiring a lot of driver involvement.
In other words, its low maintenance.
Valentine One, v1.8 /w POP2
The
Valentine, as expected,
was quick at alerting
to ALL radar/laser traps encountered
and
may provide ultimate performance, but our
venerable V1’s stellar performance was
somewhat diminished by a
greater propensity to “falsing” on K
band and required the most
involvement of the driver to properly interpret its
alerts. We would prefer it
to be quieter [even at the risk of some
advanced warning time to a real trap]
because, after awhile, we found
ourselves ignoring its K-alert anyway
which can be just, if not more so, as
risky.
This increased falsing was noticeable
even in rural [remote] areas of our
driving route. The Valentine
falsed the least on Ka-band
relative to the other two detectors and
in the summer season - its been
suggested - that this may become more
pronounced as there will tend to be an
increase of "cheap" radar detectors on
the road as people do more vacation
traveling. We'll have to wait and
see...
We still love the arrows,
that immediately identify the location
of a “threat” and have been accustomed
to them for well over a decade!
But, we did not specifically encounter a
speed trap, during this test, where they
would have made a substantive difference
- which is not to say that there aren’t
specific conditions, where they may
have.
And - as evidenced on
our driving route of
day
six - they may occasionally be
misleading, requiring proper
interpretation from its owner.
Additionally, the Valentine was somewhat
ergonomically challenged as compared to
the other detectors from Bel and Escort.
An all too familiar
site on this stretch of highway.
Think of the Valentine as the pure
race-car of the bunch
- such as a
Ferrari
F40.
It has awesome capability, but
(this current version) may be a bit
fatiguing to take on long-trips.
Valentine One, v1.7
The older model has aged
especially well and continues to dazzle
us with reliable top-shelf performance.
Other than not having the newer POP nor
Ku capabilities, this detector is still
an incredible performer and we
really wouldn't feel any less protected
driving with it [in the States] as
compared to the newer detectors.
"No POP," you say? "So what," we
say - troopers should be using the
standard operational mode of the BEE
III anyway so that they can legally
issue tickets and until the day that POP
can be used in that manner (we doubt
that'll ever happen) its more about marketing
hype than a real threat. Is
POP capability nice? Sure, but
this detector still remains a
benchmark by which [all] other
radar detectors (including the V1 v1.8)
are judged .
This older model only slightly
lagged in Ka-band sensitivity to its
younger brother, the V1.8 and appeared
just slightly quicker with X and K-band
radar. - an incredible accomplishment
given that it's on more than a
decade old! No doubt, that's why
they continue to
fetch a premium on E-bay. For its
time (come to think of it, for all
time), it truly is an engineering
marvel!
Thinking of this one as a
Lamborghini Diablo VT, Lotus Esprit,
or perhaps (it's been suggested) a
Hummer H1.
Our Overall Preference
Throughout these tests, we found
ourselves favoring the comparison of
both the RX65 Pro and V1.
And, in fact, although it’s not
practical for most, we enjoyed driving
with both detectors in operation
– they appeared to get along quite
nicely. If one alerted while the other
remained silent, we would feel more
assured that we could disregard the
alert. If both alerted, we were more
inclined to react immediately.
Taking everything into
consideration - if we had
only to pick one radar detector to
take with us on our trip, it would be
the Beltronics RX65 Pro.
We think Bel has struck a wonderful
balance between absolute performance,
ergonomic friendliness, and "fresh"
packaging.
Now,
what's your
preference?
We will discuss our findings, with our
readers, on the
radardetector.net forum. Your
participation is welcomed and we’ll
provide updates when deemed appropriate.
We have invited each of the
manufacturers to provide commentary in
response to this article and will
include them in our review as we receive
them.
We wish you safe motoring!
Bob & Lisa (aka:
The Veil Guy & Veil Gal)
Veil
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